lisa jackson steps down inexplicably. the president gives a vague pat on the back and she goes out the door. always in this world of what would be like if it was a republican administration. from "fast and furious" to benghazi and now this. and yet the mainstream media likes to say, move along, nothing to see here. gregg: now we have a similar scandal and the epa. what you say? >> a libertarian think tank is alleging that this woman had a phony e-mail address. there is also the fact that almost all public agencies, there is a public e-mail address and an internal e-mail addresses they can communicate with each other. since it is a secret or phony e-mail address, and environmental protester -- he doesn't want to be pro-pipeline, give the administration and all these issues -- he is alleging that this one person used a false e-mail address, a phony name, and did some things falsely under that name. >> let's have some evidence if that's true. >> okay, so if you find out that the epa officials is one example, there was a rich